Commons talk:Project scope/Evidence

Community consensus for policy

I see that this document was created as a sub-page of Project scope in 2009. Was a there a community consensus to turn the essay into policy? It can be observed that the "policy" elements are duplicated from the parent document and it is not convention to turn essays that quote existing policies into more policies automatically. I raise the question as we have a common goal to keep Commons policies simple to understand and to keep our bureaucracy to a minimum. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 09:59, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Can you please link to the essay? Is it used as an explanation for these project/scope policies? Rybkovich (talk) 17:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Consent

While I collect signed consent for all the identifiable images I take I do not and will not share these consents publicly or with fellow volunteers. I had a Wikipedian launch a legal attack against me a number of years ago on this issue as they claimed I did not have appropriate consent (they were not the subject of the photos or even knew the subjects of the photos). I shared the consents with my College of Physicians and Surgeons and the case was dismissed.

I therefore find this "policy" concerning. We do not want to be forcing people to associate pictures with real names. I have had people email me asking if the subjects of some of my images were there relatives when they were not. There are simply people who look the same. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Proof of anonymity/unknown authorship

I had a recent discussion where an editor argued that for Template:Anonymous-EU or such, this policy dictates we have to find a a source that clearly states the author is anonymous or unknown, or we have to assume otherwise. Since find a source that clearly states that for many public domain images based on anonymity assumption is often very hard, this line of reasoning would endanger many images. Still, in light of Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle... what do people think? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 04:20, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Most of the time, it is not possible to prove a negative fact. So we have to rely on the absence of a positive fact. It should be accepted that when a reliable source does not mention the author, the work is anonymous. Regards, Yann (talk) 07:24, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Consent of a person that is the subject of the picture

Suppose I have an article about John Doe. John gave me its photo and I write an article about him. What kind of proof can I give that is he who gave me the photo? --Serhio (talk) 15:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

@Serhio: Hi, and welcome. We would need permission from the copyright holder, generally the photographer, and we would recommend applying {{Personality}} to the photo. Please see COM:L.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 02:10, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

• It is best to have the subject take a selfie, and either upload it themselves, or they have to send in a VRT form confirming that they are releasing it under a CC license or releasing it into the public domain. --RAN (talk) 16:32, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Proof of anonymity/unknown authorship (redux)

We really do need to discuss this issue in text of this page, deleters are demanding evidence of absence: I suggest "if the image was found online provide a url to that page." and "If the image was scanned from an original, please add Template:Scan." --RAN (talk) 17:31, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

• It looks like this was done, Thank you! --RAN (talk) 14:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Scans of original images

The page should discuss what is expected when you scan an original image. I buy images from eBay and scan them, what is expected? RAN (talk) 14:50, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): eBay Item ID, scan of the back (if not empty), and country the item shipped to you from, as well as pertinent info about the name and lifetime of each photographer and designer, and the country of origin.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 16:18, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

• It needs to be incorporated into the text on the page. --RAN (talk) 16:29, 27 June 2022 (UTC)