Commons talk:Deletion policy

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What is the criteria for "redundant" and should this criteria be added to this page?[edit]

Not having any criteria or examples of what is redundant and what is not can create extra work/clutter:

  • by people making improper deletion requests based on files that are not redundant, requiring others to respond and to close the deletion request
  • by people thinking the files they are uploading are not redundant when they are, causing other people to nominate and discuss them later
  • by people not deletion requesting true redundant images because they are not sure if they meet the criteria for redundancy, leading to more clutter

It would be nice if there were guidelines on this, or at least a few examples. Chamaemelum (talk) 22:08, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'd say for me there are two (maybe three) kinds of images that are redundant. 1. Minor crops where you can't tell the image is cropped without having to compare them side by side. 2. Any two images of the same scene, resolutions (or extremely similar resolutions), and where the only differences are at a minor level that isn't viewable by the eye. Like there was a "redundant" image I nominated for deletion a while back where someone argue it should be kept because the shading or something on a small part of it was changed. Even though there was no way to tell just by looking at the image. I'd also add to that images that are totally identical outside being in different file types, but sometimes it's useful to have the same image in multiple formats depending. For instance Jpeg and Tiff file of the same image. So I think dealing with that type of redundancy is a non-starter. Even if it still leads to most of the same problems you've mentioned. If you want a good example of that though, checkout this file and this one. One of them will never be deleted as "redundant" even if it is because someone (probably the user who uploaded both of them) will just cry foul about how we are allowed to upload the same image in different file formats. Even if there's literally zero difference between the two. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:27, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]